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Showing posts with label Divorce. Show all posts

Sunday, June 9, 2013

Why Did You Get Divorced






Ask this question to your divorced friends. Was it money? Fall out of love? Religion? Housekeeping? Was it cheating? There are so many reasons why people good people get divorced. Is it really any worse to divorce over a spouse's refusal to do anything about their weight problem?

Here are some frequently cited reasons for causing divorce:

Lack of commitment to the marriage
Lack of communication between spouses
Infidelity
Abandonment
Alcohol Addiction
Substance Abuse
Physical Abuse
Sexual Abuse
Emotional Abuse
Inability to manage or resolve conflict
Personality Differences or ‘irreconcilable differences’
Differences in personal and career goals
Financial problems
Different expectations about household tasks
Different expectations about having or rearing children
Interference from parents or in-laws
Lack of maturity
Intellectual Incompatibility
Sexual Incompatibility
Insistence of sticking to traditional roles and not allowing room for personal growth
Falling out of love
Religious conversion or religious beliefs
Cultural and lifestyle differences
Inability to deal with each other’s petty idiosyncrasies
Mental Instability or Mental Illness
Criminal behavior and incarceration for crime


Obesity certainly causes and contributes to sexual incompatibility. I'm guessing obesity is the least talked about reason for divorce. Whatever the reason for the failure of your marriage just remember. Nobody can make you feel better about yourself and you can’t change and save anybody. As someone wise once said, it takes two wholes to make a marriage, not two halves.

Smallwife posted this on the My Fat Spouse forum

Thursday, May 16, 2013

Why divorce is NOT out of the question.


Now before i begin this post i want to make the intentions behind it clear. I am not saying with this post that people just up and leave straight away the second a problem arises. Everyone on this site has shown they love their spouse. Yes they are greatly annoyed and disapointed by their partners behaviour and what they have allowed themselves to become with self destructive ways eg: Overweight, lower physical attraction, aswell as changes in moods and characteristics for the worse etc, but still love them and want the best for them. This post is an anaolgy for those who have, after all of their efforts, found themselves right back where they started, no improvements, and hearing more excuses. This is too show that in the end, sometimes a relationship just can't continue. Some people will feel guilty because they feel 'shallow' that they want to leave because of lower physcial attraction, but dont accept or listen to themselves and hear the whole story their heart is telling them, and see the other ramifications that come along from their spouses behaviour, as they are so afraid that they may 'be a bad person' for their feelings.. As i wrote in another post, not looking after physcial attraction causes a normal human response to find the person less attractive. Therefore sex lives suffer, frustration builds, resentment can build, also the fat partners behaviour can change the fat partners personality for the worse as their laziness continues to set in and become their norm etc Some people find that after so much effort of trying to help their partner and finding nothing has worked, they realise their partner no longer does the one main thing that partners and friends are there to do for our lives: Make it better. And sometimes things just realistically can't continue, behaviour and habits can not be tolerated and it is not selfish to decide it is not how you want to live anymore, it is selfish for the fat spouse (aswell as fat militants and those who accuse you of 'shallowness (even though their opinion is irrelevant, they at the end of the day aren't in the relationship, you are), to expect a relationship to always be there when they put no effort into keeping the spark and passion alive, looking after themselves, and allowing self destructive behaviour to become more important to them then looking after their relationship.
After all this, here is an analogy to show why, in the end, sometimes you have to say 'Enough!' Think of this: A mother and father have a child. This child is their pride and joy, makes them smile and happy, theiry child is happy, they are the light of each others lives. Then the child grows older and falls in with the wrong crowd, and finds itself getting involved in more and more bad behaviour. The police are constantly ringing home telling the parents 'we have your child', and the parents, although they love the child, will grow increasingly frustrated, and wonder 'just what went wrong'. All attempts at helping the child to stop their destructive behaviour are in vain. Nothing works not matter what and eventually the parents are at their wits end. They are at the edge. They love their child as parents do, but they miss with all their heart, the person who made them smile, the happy, fun child they once had, who has been replaced by a social deviant and troublemaker, who has no intention to change. Who is now ruining their lives, making live miserable. Then one day the police phone the house saying 'Your child is in deep trouble again', and the parents say 'I'm sorry, but we have tried to often to help. We can't take anymore. They are on their own'. This analogy is actually what has hapened in real life with parents and young troublmakers. This has happened many times, and some parents although they love their child have been pulled so far over the edge they have even said 'I'm sorry, i don't have a child' when they are contacted for the hundreth time by the police. I hope you understand this analogy. Remember this is REAL LIFE. Relationships take effort and work from both sides. they are not something to be taken for granted. People who dont look after themselves must realise this. Some people just seem to think their partner owes them the relationship, but relationships are equal partnerships and both people need to pull their weight. This is the real world, with real people, with real human limits to what they can take. And if a partner doesn't care enough to look after their relationship, they have no-one else to blame when the other finally says 'Enough!' (And no i'm not comparing spouses to criminals, to anyone who may not understand the analogy means no matter how close your bond is with someone eg husband and wife, parent and child etc, ALL people have human limits, and like the parents in the analogy, they love their child, but the destructive behaviour can no longer be tolerated, and no help has gotten through, so they must say 'we can't put up with this anymore')

A101 posted this on the My Fat Spouse Forum

Thursday, March 7, 2013

Mojo Makes it Happen




 About a little more than two years ago I was still holding onto hope that my situation would improve. My wife and I had been separated several times, but somehow always managed to get back together-usually after making promises of trying harder to give up the countless carbs and tons of sugar and ice cream. Then suddenly, and out of the blue she just gave up-threw her arms up and quit! No, not just quit-she told me under no uncertain terms that she was tired of trying to lose weight, that it was too hard, that she liked carbs, sugar, ice cream, cheese, and fatty foods and the way they all made her feel, that they made her feel good and she needed that, and she wasn’t going to try to stop eating anymore; and if I didn’t like it, that was just too bad-that I could get a divorce because she was never gonna change and she just couldn’t understand why I couldn’t just love her unconditionally the was she was. So that’s when I threw in the towel and filed for divorce. She later told me that she didn’t think I would seriously do it, until the day she was served the papers.

   Fast forward-about six months after the divorce while visiting a friend I bumped into a gorgeous gal. It was like a bolt out of the blue-love at first site! I had never felt anything quite like it before except for maybe my first true love when I was sixteen(I almost married her when she turned 18, but her parents had other plans.) I had been casually dating since the divorce, but I honestly thought it would take several years to find someone I would be able to marry. Anyhow, the rest is as they say, history. We were married  several months ago and both are quite happy. We are still in the honeymoon phase, but I think we are both fairly well grounded in the marriage. Of course, we each have our own peculiarities, but we are so much alike in so many ways-it just plain works. What is really wonderful is that I now have a spouse who “gets it.” She understands me and she knows why I divorced my ex(My ex made certain of that, as she had to tell my bride rather bluntly, “He divorced me for no other reason than I just got fat!”. Boy, was my ex surprised when my bride told her she already knew that and had no problem with it, because she knew what it took to make a man happy and she was willing to do what it takes-namely, to take care of herself.)

   I wish I could tell you that it was all a bed of roses, but that would be a lie. divorce is never really easy, especially when kids are involved, but I can honestly say that for the first time in a very long time I am truly happy. I have a few more years before my youngest child will be out of the house, so there re bound to be concerns. About the only regret I have presently is that I didn’t do the divorce sooner. I really don’t think I did my children any favors by delaying the inevitable as long as I did. They later admitted to me that they knew all along that their mother and I had been having problems for a long time and that we were basically staying together just for them. The hardest part is not being physically close(in distance) to them as I was before my remarriage. So maybe, it would have been better to have waited to remarry for the sake of my children? I don’t know. Sometimes though, before you can properly take care of others, you need to first take care of yourself.

Presently, I suppose I’m feeling a little like Jean Valjean from Les Misérables who’s prison sentence was nearly the same length as my term in fat hell-almost 20 years. Not that my entire marriage was a living hell, there were many happy memories too-my children, for instance. But, I sometimes wonder how it might have been more joy filled had I not had to deal with the addictions with which my wife suffered and struggled so greatly. It certainly would be a different tale to tell-It probably would not have ended in divorce. Though, this is not the end, only a new beginning. Well, at least for me it is.

Now, for those who struggle with these things, if you be the one who suffers, the spouse of an obese partner, you have my empathy-and if you be the obese spouse-my sympathy.  I think I can speak for a few others hear as well, you have theirs too. I would not like to see any divorce, with but few exceptions. Marriage can be hard enough on its own, however, gluttony and obesity are matters that weigh on the relations between a man and a woman in ways which no other can. If sex is to be the barometer of a healthy marriage as some have advocated, then I can think of little else within the control of most sane adults that could be more damaging and damning than willfully allowing oneself to become obese to the degree in which natural sexual relations become greatly frustrated, or nearly impossible altogether.

This is a great problem that is plaguing much of the world, affecting millions. The solutions appear to be rather plain to most who are educated in these matters, however, those choices that must be made on a daily, even a constant bases, apparently are not so easy for many. I would add that I think choices themselves are not so difficult, rather it’s the “doing” part that seems to cause many grief. So, the way may not be easy-only it will be worth it. Unfortunately, it is often a hard thing to accept the fact that with it comes to obesity within a marriage, or any relationship for that matter, the ultimate responsibility is on each individual. It took me many years to finally get that-that I could not make my wife eat better, or exercise, or even loose one single ounce of fat-that ultimately, in the end it was her choice. The only power I had, other than offering my support, was deciding what I was going to do about the situation.

Now you know the rest of the story(or at least the juicy part), but it’s not over yet by any means. Life will go on just as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow, but where we are when it does largely depends on the choices we make today.

Posted by  Mojo on Matilda Tuesday's

Sunday, January 16, 2011

It's not for the faint of heart



I don't think that a fat partner considers weight gain to be a personal failure.  

It's due to children, stress, no time for working out, no time to cook healthy meals because of the kids soccer practice, a bad marriage, a horrible boss, an awful job, emotional issues, age related, I was molested (and BTW pretty much everyone was at some point!), I don't feel loved, I don't know HOW to lose weight, diets don't work, I have a thyroid problem, my medication makes me gain weight, or any other excuse you can attach to it.  

But it is rarely because I eat too much, I eat too many (donuts, cheeseburgers, pizza, etc), I don't exercise, or anything else that might resemble personal responsibility.

I don't think I agree with a spouse having the right to walk out without saying a word though...I think it is owed to the spouse to inform them of the reasons for ending the marriage, and if the fat spouse wants to make changes, great!  But those changes would have to be immediately implement with an agreed upon deadline for at least SOME changes.  If not, see ya!  Life's too short!  That's just me though. If the fat spouse doesn't give a $hit or is too lazy to do what it takes then you're banging your head against a brick wall.  I think a spouse owes it to the other to be honest and let them know how they feel, but if after that they refuse to do anything about the situation - whatever it is, not just weight - well, then let the chips fall where they may.  

As for marriage, I find it interesting that when two people decide to marry it's all about emotions & feelings.  That's fantasy land.  Feelings fade - guaranteed.  What must be left is a shared vision for life, mutual respect and some attraction.  Yet, when a couple decides to divorce and one says "I don't love you anymore" people don't want to hear that!  Marriage is no longer about "emotions & feelings" it's now its about responsibility, commitment, and promising to spend your life with someone FOREVER - REGARDLESS of how you feel!!! Yuck.  And on top of it all the government gets to dictate all the details of a couple's divorce where it pertains to money & children - basically the two most important aspects of marriage. I honestly think marriage sucks and am reluctant to ever enter into another.  IMHO. Probably only invented for the purpose of raising children.  But really, who can last an ENTIRE lifetime with the same person, especially when issues like these arise.  You can't control another person, and if they refuse to change, even knowing how adversely something they are doing is affecting the other, then you're SOL and stuck with them simply because of a contract?  No.  Thanks.

People need to think long and hard before entering into such a union.  It's not for the faint of heart.


posted by LiveLifeWell
 on Matilda Tuesday's My Fat Spouse Forum

Thursday, November 11, 2010

I read so many of the stories here and just had to sign up and tell mine.

Ive read so many of the stories here and just had to sign up and tell my story. Wife and I are in our late 30's...2 kids. 6 years old and 11 months old. Great kids, love em. I work and wife is a stay at home mom till she finds work. She is 5'4'' and normally weighs around 140 or so which looks good on her. When she was pregnant with last baby she but on 60 lbs. She used to run a lot but stopped after getting pregnant. After the baby, she was about 180. This was about 8 months ago. Since then she has only lost another 6 lbs. SIX ! About 6 months ago in counseling we discussed her weight and how much it bothered, she became hysterical---crying etc but I think with the help of the counselor its something we would work on together. We stopped counseling because it became too much for her to handle and she felt he was "siding" with me too much. For 5 months I said nothing to her. She occasionally worked out---but never adjusted her eating. She eats healthy food but late at night and seems to like her sweets as well. All her friends and immediate family are obese to morbidly obese. I thought I got the one thin person in the family but I guess not.

   



     In the last 3 weeks I have gotten back to talking about it after seeing she wasn't losing barely anything. I mentioned her health---how its a good example for our kids---I did workouts with her, changed my schedule so she could work out...bought her a treadmill..u name it I did it. We also had a lot of sex and I treated her exactly the same in bed.   3 weeks ago I went to her mothers house and saw her mother (who is older) in her non "dress up" clothes. It was a moo moo of sorts. She is easily 350 lbs or so...I felt so sad for her and thought what a difficult life she must have had due to all this excess weight. I also thought how difficult it must be for her husband who is a jack lalaine type. And I also thought about how my wife and all her overweight sisters just talk badly about the dad how he was always angry and so judgmental.  Not saying his wifes weight was everything but I sure think it contributed.  That day really hit home... I said that this is not going to be me in 50 years, no friggin way.  

Every single time I have brought this up...it is met with hysterical yelling, throwing things and threats of divorce. It is crazy. When I was discussing this with my wife this morning I honestly thought a vein was going to pop in her head. My wife has always struggled with her weight, and 10 to15 lbs overweight I can deal with. 40 I cant. Its gross, her belly sticks out more than her giant breasts, she has a ton of back fat and her legs and ass are look like ball park frank plump versions of what they used to be.  Facially she is beautiful, perhaps thats why she thinks its OK ? I dont know.
FYI---I lift weights and play basketball regularly so I am pretty fit and conscious of what and when I eat to keep myself looking good.

Reluctantly I am looking at different divorce options. I love my kids more than anything but I dont know what else to do with this obese woman who loves food more than her family it seems. 

             Posted by             FitHusband on Matilda Tuesday's My Fat Spouse Forum

Monday, May 3, 2010

Inside the Head of a Fat Wife

This fat acceptance blogger is contemplating divorce, because there are "issues" in her marriage. Somewhere around the halfway marker of her entry she says what you already suspect: the "issue" is that her husband can't accept her weight (and "issues with cyber-fidelity" I take to mean that he seeks refuge in porn), and since she joined the FA she has stopped dieting and her husband is worried that she'll keep getting even fatter.

http://randomquorum.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/how-do-you-know-when-its-time-to-divorce/

It's very obvious that the way she sees it, the problem is all with her husband's attitude and losing the weight is not an option. She'd rather divorce her man than ever attempt a diet again. She seems convinced that dieting is dangerous and detrimental to her health, but for my part I'd bet all I have lock, stock and barrel that no amount of evidence in the form of new studies proving that even repeated yo-yo dieting is not a health-hazard would convince her that losing weight might be a good idea after all. The discomfort of going on a diet is a definite no-no and food comes first.

I don't know what to make of it and I'm sort of speechless really, how can it be that food and eating is worth more than saving a good marriage - and can you really get more self-centered and "shallow" than that? Satisfying your immediate physical needs (cravings for food, distaste for exercise) comes before anything and everything else, and you need to get rid of anyone who attempts to come between you and your dinner so to speak.

Why is the most simple and obvious solution so completely out of the question?



A quote (the author replying to a comment), it's about how her husband is dealing with the issue:

He does seem to want to get over it, but he’s back and forth a lot. I’m not sure he’s getting over it so much as learning to keep his mouth shut more often, although he does say that he really is getting better and that it genuinely doesn’t bother him most of the time. So, yeah, I’m not really sure. It seems now to be a lot of “I can deal with how you are now although you’re still kinda fat but I’m terrified that you will get even fatter in the future and if you’re not dieting now then you certainly will”. He can be really good for a month or more and then all of a sudden he will just go into a mood for a day or two (or more) until he tells me that he’s worried and then he’s fine again (and sleeps like a baby – unlike me who becomes distant and depressed and stops sleeping! how unfair).

And my mum is very fat, so I think he’s afraid I’ll end up like her, and if I do then who knows what will happen. IMO it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world – I love my mum and think she’s awesome and I don’t really notice her fat, but as he’s told me once, he’d rather be dead than me gain 30kgs, so yeah. Who knows.

I don't think there is such a thing as an effortlessly lean and athletic middle-aged individual. It takes hard work and dedication, period. I've been following the debate on Randomquorum, and they now unisonely agree that the husband is abusive, even though the author said he seems to try hard not to bring the subject up, and, if I got it right, only wants her to promise she'll try not to become severely obese like her mother. Somewhat depressingly, a woman who claims to be a professional counselor shares this general opinion.

I don't get this "abuse" -thing. Sure, I'm aware that there are plenty of abusive men out there and they will use a woman's insecurities about her looks and body to control her and destroy her confidence. However, that doesn't mean that every husband who has a wish regarding his wife's appearance is automatically abusive and controlling. I'd say many wives have an opinion on the husband's dress-sense and haircut, and maybe would object if he decided to grow a beard and a moustache, or shave his head or maybe grow a pony-tail and get himself some tattoos. It's hardly abusive to have an opinion regarding those, nor is the husband a victim of abuse if he respects his wife's wishes regarding his looks and style.

For instance, my husband likes me with a certain hairstyle, so even though I might like to try something different I haven't done it because he wouldn't like it - it's no big deal and there's no pressure either way. I just know what he likes and am fine with that. I'd also like to take my fat-percentage down a couple of notches as a challenge and in order to see what the result would be (and I'd like to know if I could ever compete in fitness/figure in my age-group), but my husband tends to complain if I get any leaner and wouldn't be happy having me take on that degree of obsession with workouts & diet, so I probably won't do it. Nothing abusive there either, it's just the kind of compromising you do in a relationship.

So, what I fail to see is, why would a perfectly decent man be labelled an abusive jerk just because he happens to have a preference regarding his wife's looks (which inevitably includes body size)? Just having such a wish and preference (within reason, not anorexic/severely obese or anything else obviously unhealthy) can hardly be wrong. It only becomes abusive if he tries to forcibly impose his wishes, like with verbally and/or physically threatening behavior, destructive manipulation etc.

Monday, April 12, 2010

I’m asking for your help and I am very serious.

I met my husband in 1988. We were both just out of college and I saw him playing volleyball one night at a local bar. He was the star of the team; the Alpha male and the center of attention! He was not only the most athletic person on his team, but he was the most handsome man at the bar that night, as evidenced by the girls who were nuts over him!

I was there with some of my girlfriends who talked me into approaching him. Now I’m not saying I’m the hottest thing going, but back then – I was much similar to most college girls: work out, watch what I eat, etc. I approached him, asked for his number and we went out. It was almost love at first sight – as he told me he had his eye on me all night, similar to the thoughts I had about him.

That was the summer of 1988, and we married in the spring of 1989. 17 years, two children, three dogs and a cat later and we are still married … for the moment.

Here is my dilemma and the problem I need help with: about six or seven years ago, my husband began living a life separate from mine. He stopped going to the gym with me shortly after our two children were born, he began bringing home and eating junk food (previously NOT allowed in our home) and he found sweat pants! You now - the ONE PAIR OF BAD, GRAY SWEAT PANTS! Crotch worn, dirty, stained, and smelly!

I didn’t think too much of it at first – as we were busy with children, ball games, babysitters and so forth. But, I now find myself in need of help. I still belong and go to the same gym we have had our membership at for all these years. I am actually 10 pounds lighter than the day I married him. I am much more fit, toned, trim and – in my opinion – keeping up with the rest of the ladies my age. I do this for myself and for him/our marriage. He, on the other hand, is now 100 pounds heavier than the day we met, wears the same clothes he has worn for years – until the waist band no longer fits and then we just buy bigger, bad clothing. He belches and he farts around, not only the neighbors, friends and my children but me as well. He takes a shower about twice a week. He hasn’t been to the gym with me in years and worst of all, we NEVER have sex any more.

I am frustrated! I have guys checking me out at the grocery store. It makes me feel good. I have guys ask me out when I go out with the girls for a drink after work, despite my wedding ring on. Total strangers give me compliments I haven’t heard from my husband in years. This summer, I have had enough!

I have shared my feelings with my co-workers (all of them completely grossed out by him at this point) and girlfriends and they have encouraged me to take it to the next level.

I have made subtle hints to him over the past couple of years, getting stronger and stronger with my language as the months go by. Recently, however, at the suggestion of my best friend, I finally dropped the bomb!
“IF YOU DON’T SHAPE UP AND GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER, I'M GONE!"

I am tired of having no life! I am tired of not feeling appreciated. And I am really, really tired of missing the days when we were both attractive, sexy and turned on by one another. I miss sex!

I’m asking for your help and I am very serious. You must have listeners who are going though something similar. With nearly 60% of the population categorized as overweight, I can’t be alone.

What are some of the things they’ve tried to get their spouse in shape? What are ways they use to get them to lose weight?

I am so nervous about this and I would really appreciate your thoughtfulness on this matter.

Posted by Frustrated Wife on the My Fat Spouse Forum.

Friday, January 22, 2010

Mountain of Love

I have been reading and posting here and on the old MFS for some time.

Something has always puzzled me.

The talk about love! There is the love for a child which is unconditional love but there are still borders and consequences of wrong behaviour.

Then there is the love for the partner....an adult and sometimes it looks to me like there are no borders! Why?
Love to me doesn't mean that I am getting treated like an emotional garbage bin, a cash cow, a slave!
I am not the supervisior of my partners food intake, I am not the one to talk him into exercise, I am not the one who wipes his butt because he is too fat to do it himself. I am not the one to make excuses for him cause he can't to things ....because he is too fat.

Love to me means to respect my partner and be respected by him! It means that I try to make our life easier and I expect the same from him! It means that I try to be the best person I can be .....so our life is good! It means that I stay fit and healthy so I can be a good partner for a long time and we can have fun together, be it hiking, camping, kayaking....whatever! It means I dress myself nicely when we go out because I want him to be proud of me. It means that I help him when he needs me!

So many times, when I read about love here, it sounds so one sided. " I still love him......." but the partner is doing nothing to deserve this love! Au contraire, he does everything to kill the love!
And still .....people take it.....why..... I can't understand it.
If I am not valued as a person and partner, I am out of the relationsship....cause I am not happy and neither is my partner....so why stay?

Monday, March 23, 2009

Loveloving's Story

I had posted my story on the old MFS and Tuesday asked me to post it again. 
So here it goes. 

I married when I was 24 years old, a man 10 years older than me. I am pisces and pisces tend to look for security in their relationsships. 
He was fairly heavy when we met but I was young and thought it wouldn't matter and his other qualities would outweigh his belly. 
We have two girls together, both grown up now.
After the second girl, my interest in sex with him (which was never really intense to begin with), faded to nothing. So we basically had a 20 year long sexless marriage which was hard on him too. I talked to him about his weight but he didn't change. He was frustrated because of the lack of sex and ate.... 
After our girls left home, I was thinking about how the rest of my life would look like if I stayed with him.
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