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Showing posts with label BMI. Show all posts
Showing posts with label BMI. Show all posts

Saturday, July 20, 2013

Confessions of a Fat Spouse: How I happened

I read on the forum for this site that many fit spouses who are married to those that have become morbidly obese are, in addition to being angry and saddened by this, simply perplexed as to *how* it could happen. How can someone that used to be fit, or relatively so, let themselves go to the point that they are now a blob of soft, expansive flesh that is barely recognizable as the person they were before? I of course cannot address how every person who is obese makes this transition, but I can tell my story in hopes that it will possibly give some insights as to how the process might occur with other fat spouses.

I started out life on the heavy of normal according to most height/weight charts. During high school I weighed around 140 pounds, standing at 5'4. Looking back now I know that this wasn't horrible, but at the time I felt like I was huge. I was teased from time to time about my weight. I could see rolls of fat on my belly when I sat down. I would try various diets, do okay on them for a week or so, then have a voracity driven binge that would end the attempt. At a fairly young age I accepted that I was fat, and there wasn't much that I could do about it.




After I got out of high school and went about my life, my weight was fairly stable. I got married, I went to work, I went to college. I wasn't being teased about my weight like when I was the public education system. Happily married, with lots of friends, I was able to bury deep the sting of remarks about my size.

During this time, I didn't know how to drive. I had wanted to learn as a teen agar, of course, but my father was always much too busy to sit with me in the car when I had my learners permit, and I was too nervous to ask fellow classmates for help. Plus, I didn't really need to drive. I lived in a large city in California. There was a good public transit system, and also I could ride my ten-speed year round to most of the places I had to go. This held true after I got married as well. My husband and I were fairly poor, and getting a car wasn't a high fiscal priority.

All that changed when I took a job that was a two hour bus ride away, but only 30 minutes by car. I decided it was worth the effort to get my license and buy a car. I didn't really think about it at the time, but it was shortly after that I put my bicycle away, for good. I no longer spent a couple hours a day or more riding about town, I just hopped in the car and went. It saved time, of course, but I didn't change the way I was eating. I started putting on weight.

It took a while for this to really register with me. After all, as far as I was concerned, I was always fat. There were moments of clarity that I was getting bigger than I ever had been before; my clothes started getting much tighter. I had to buy new ones anyway because I now had an office job and had to look professional. It was surprisingly easy to ditch the old ones and get newer, larger sized without confronting myself on the fact that I was sliding downhill fast.

By the time I was in my mid thirties, I estimate I was around 240. I'm not sure because I never, ever weighed myself, and I was pretty good at avoiding having my picture taken as well. I do know that when I finally decided to take control of my body again at the age of 40, I weighed in at 258. Given that I'm fairly short, this meant I was class 3 morbidly obese, and overweight by approximately 120 pounds, with a BMI of 44.3. I was a very, very fat spouse.

All this is very good and well, but it raises the obvious question: what the hell was going on in my head that I let myself get like that? I believe it was a combination of things.

I already believed that I was fat. I believed that there was nothing I could do about it. After all, every time I had tried I had failed, and ended up getting fatter than before. I looked at the fact that my father is also obese, had never lost a pound for good either, and decided the cards were simply stacked against me.

I also was pretty deep in denial about how fat I actually was. As I said, I never really weighed myself. When I was forced to confront the facts when I ended up having to shop for 3X clothes, I felt on some level that there was some sort of mistake, that the salesperson would steer me away from the plus size section over to the normal side. I would look at other fat women, and say things to myself like "She's way fatter than me!" as if this somehow made a difference in my situation.

Then there was the issue that I simply liked my lifestyle. I liked eating fast food. I love chocolate and fried chicken and potato chips. I never really like exercising just for its own sake. I liked spending my free time surfing the Internet or playing computer games. I like watching TV. I didn't consider myself to be exceptionally lazy; I just didn't like doing activities that got me moving around instead of sitting around.

I was also becoming increasingly depressed about my weight. Denial can only go so far, and hopelessness was taking its toll. I absolutely hated being fat. I hated how I felt, how I looked. I hated that I no longer turned any man's head when I walked by. I hated that my husband seemed increasingly reluctant to touch my body. I was deeply ashamed of myself. Reaching for a bag of fatty or sugary empty calories was a way to make myself feel better, if only for the time I was shoving the useless calories down my throat.

None of this excuses the fact that I got very, very fat. I believe that the reality is that being very fat is at its heart a lifestyle choice. I'm just relating how, for a significant part of my life, this seemed like a reasonable and unavoidable choice to me.
 I'm Tealeaf, and I approve of this message.

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Wednesday, February 2, 2011

If I can do it, your spouse can too.


I read this site for thinspo.

Thought I might share the history behind and progress in my journey so far. Perhaps there is something I have to say that will help someone with their significant other either in terms of motivation or understanding. I don't know. This will probably be a long one, so grab a cup of tea :)

I've been an emotional eater for the majority of my life, since I was about 12 I would say. I was severely sexually abused from age eight to adulthood and that is when my relationship with food got seriously messed up. This is not a sob story, it is what it is. And what it is is the beginning of my f*%$ed up, dependant, twisted relationship with food. I began to eat more, for the high I got from sugar and the high I got from defying/disregarding my abuser. He preferred me thin. If he hadn't expressed a preference for me thin I think I probably would have been at the other end of the spectrum of food issues and wound up anorexic.

I'm 5'8'' and small-medium boned. When I graduated from high school, my dress size was 6 for my formal gown. I do not know my weight at that point but I liked my body. I had lost probably a good ten pounds the spring before grad due to incredible stress in my life.

When I met my husband I was in size 5 slim-fit jeans and also happy with my body. In between I had ballooned up (2-3 sizes) and lost weight, again due to incredible stress, not any effort on my part.

After marrying and having a couple of children I found myself incredibly unhappy with my body. I'd go to the pantry for comfort, especially if my husband rejected me sexually or we had a fight. (Our sex drives aren't super compatible in the first place but I own the fact that my weight had to be a contributing factor for him.) I've always loooooved starches and sweets, and I would head straight for those.

When my husband made his comment and I decided I wanted to turn my life around and shrink my ass I was 164. BMI of 24.9. Just barely in the normal range! I was almost clinically overweight. Now I may not have been a full fledged cow or anything but I was a budding heifer, certainly. And I did not carry it well.

I had always been told that to figure out a person's ideal weight you take 100 lbs for the first five feet of height and add five pounds per inch of height over 5 feet. Then + or - 10% and you have an acceptable range. So me at 5'8" = 140 lbs, +/- 14 lbs. So my acceptable range would be 126-154 lbs according to this idea. I set my goal weight at 140 to start. It is now 135, in case you are interested.

I started simply counting calories. I have an iphone so I downloaded a calorie tracker application and started tracking! You input height, weight, age, goal weight, goal date and it calculates how many calories you should consume in a day to get there. I like technology so this was a fun way for me to keep track and I always have my phone on me so it became habit to track automatically. And not "forget".

I went with the theory that a calorie was a calorie, at least for now. (meaning I didn't turn my life upside down and start eating only poached fish and brown rice and more green veggies than I'd seen in the previous year. If we ate at a fast food restaurant, I wanted Subway. If we went to McD's I had a happy meal with a cheeseburger and kid size fries or apple slices! (I know it is disgusting but those are my favorite!) I did buy the thinsations snack packs and skinny cow ice cream treats because I knew if I was denying myself sugar and things I like to eat I would fail for sure. Or only have short term success. I do have a sweet tooth and they work for me because they are portion controlled. I also made sure I kept the treats in my basement deep freeze or in my pantry in the utility room so if I wanted to get them I had to go get them, I didn't pack them around with me or anything. The individual packs don't help much if you eat the whole box.

Over the last 5 months I have slowly been incorporating healthier choices into my normal life and that of my family. I want my kids to grow up healthy and with a normal relationship with food.

I am currently 144, I was down to 142 but lost control over the holidays (It is surprisingly easy to do!) and am working to get back on track.

As far as exercise goes I started jogging in August when this all began. I am working my way through a couch to 5 k program (for the second time) and was doing well, I could jog for a full 30 mins/5k but fell off the bandwagon with a bad cold that turned into mild pneumonia that I've had for like 7 weeks. So running has been more than I had in me. I'll get back there though.

I do martial arts 2 days a week, sometimes 3. I'm trying to get back to what I was doing with jogging 3 days a week. The days I jog I also do pushups/situps/squats/etc and do some toning with 5lb hand weights. If I really don't feel like it on a day I should be jogging I will at least jump rope and shadow box. I am feeling stronger and fitter and I really love it.

Hubs has had my back with this in a number of ways:
-no complaints when I bought decent running shoes. My $30 ones really hurt my feet.
-babysits if I want to run during the day on the weekend (usually I go at night though)
-at least tries the healthier food I prepare
-says positive things to me when it occurs to him
-encourages me when I tell him I hit a milestone (5lbs down, 15 lbs down, etc)
-no complaints about fees associated with martial arts
-pokes my muscles and laughs and says they are harder/bigger. Obliges when I'm like "Feel this - I'm getting guns!" and squeezes my bicep.
-gives me a "you can do it!" in a goofy cartoon character voice when I say "Oh I don't feel like running tonight, please kick me in the butt. call me fat or something.". This one is important because he could say something cutting or remind me how bad I need to or tell me I'd better. He chooses to be a comedian. God I love this man.
-told me I need to show off my ass so he took me jean shopping.
-always tells me I'm sexy when we are intimate. that he can honestly feel the difference in my body.
-has not monitored my food. He tried one time and it was World War 3 so he hasn't done that again.

As far as my goals go I would like to get down to 135 and back in my skinny jeans (5 slim fit). More than that though I just want to tone up and continue to enjoy the energy I have now. I am a better wife and better mom and all round happier person than I was in the summer. I want my man to be proud to hang me on his arm and be sexually attracted to me. I want my relationship with food to continue to improve. I gave it far too much power in my life for far too long. Food is fuel, not my friend. Besides lots of sugar gives me a headache.

To sum up: I put down my fork, put food in it's place, and started moving.

If I can do it, your spouse can too.

Posted by fightlike_agirl
on Matilda Tuesday's My Fat Spouse Forum

Thursday, August 27, 2009

Skeptical About BMI

Skeptical About BMI
Body Mass Index or BMI has become the standard indicator used by health professionals to determine if a person is too fat or not. Basically, using only height and weight as input variables, a BMI number is produced. If a person has a Body Mass Index number of between 18.5 and 24.9 you are of a health body weight. If you have a number higher than this and you are overweight, below this and you are underweight. The formula for calculating BMI in standard units is as follows:

In 1998 the US National Institute for Health decided to lower the cut off number for being overweight to a BMI of 25.0, previously it was 27.0. This one move effectivly redefined 30 million Americans as overweight. Unfortunately this has made a bad indicator of weight, even worse. Actually, BMI was never intended for use as a health indicator. It was developed in the 1850's as a way to decide if people fit in to mesomorphic, endomorphic, or ectomorphic body classification types. This quakery indicated that peoples personality was determined by their body type as well. With endomorphs(fat) being Jovial, and Ectomorphs(skinny) being intellectual.

By far the largest flaw that BMI has, is the fact that doesn’t distinguish between body fat, and muscular mass. For example a 5’ 6”, well built bodybuilder weighing 190 lbs would be classified as “obese”. While a 6’ 2” ectomorph with toothpick arms and legs, and a pot belly, who happens to weight 160 lbs, would be classified as “ideal” weight. In reality our short weight lifter only has 10% body fat, and exercises very regularly. While our pot bellied geek only exercises virtually on a x-box, and possess a whopping 18% body fat, because he has no muscle mass.

If you would like to calculate your own BMI click this link:

http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi

For an interesting exercise, continue to lower the weight you enter in the calculator for your height, until you find out at what weight you would be considered "too skinny" according to the BMI. If your like me you will find the number absurdly, and unhealthily low!

Why does myfatspouse.com care about an innacurate fatness index? The answer is simple. By pushing this easily dismissed standard for body weight, we simply provide the obesity denial crowd an easy way to dismiss weight loss all together. When the “fat excuse” crowd points out the obvious practical fallacy of BMI, they can in turn stretch their argument that the “fat crisis” in the United States is a fabrication of the diet industry and their friends the drug makers. How can we argue against this rather appearent observation. These same “fat acceptance” types will go on to further conclude that we should forgo dieting altogether since it is unhealthy and destined to fail or worse yet cause anorexia. By not acknowledging the obviouse about BMI we run the danger of legitimizing the irresponsible behavior of the “fat excusers”.
Skin fold caliber tests provide a more accurate way to measure body fat compostition, but they are impractical for every day use, and can be difficult to get consistent results from. But once you master it you can get the most accurate picture of your body fat percentage



Here is an economical skinfold caliper I own and use

Another very usuable, and more accurate gauge of body fat is the Hip to Waist ratio. This indicator uses the ratio of the circumferances of a persons waist versus the circumferance of their hips to determine if they care carrying weight in a fashion that may be unhealthy.

You can caluculate your Waist to Hip ratio at this link:

http://www.ahealthyme.com/topic/waisthip

If someone has a high BMI number, of over 30 (which is the World Health Organization’s cutoff), they more than likely have a weight issue. Since most females lack the ability to gain large muscle mass it is probably a better indicator of body composition women. Frankly if you aren’t doing deadlifts, squats, and drinking protien powder shakes and your BMI is high, you probably do have a weight issue. We all should be carefull not to fall into the denial path that the “fat acceptance” crowd has set up for us. But it is important as well to fully understand what BMI is and how it is calculated before we formulate a weight loss or fitness plan around it
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